I have a new in the box guide 650 pro dedicated thermal and a new in the box 650 pro clip on thermal. I only took them out of the box and put them on a rifle to go to a gun show they've never seen the field. The dedicated sales for $3799 plus tax and shipping and the clip on sales for $3099 plus tax and shipping I will let them go for $3400 and $2800. If you haven't looked into guide thermals I highly recommend you do even if you don't buy mine. They have the only 10 year warranty in the game. These are 640 scopes very high end thermals and the dedicated has a 3.7 base mag which is a game changer, guys are switching from their 1280's to these 640's because of the high base mag in these scopes. Having trouble posting pics so email me and I can send them that way or through text. Might be able to shave a bit off if someone wanted both but I don't have much wiggle room.